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		<title>By: mkw</title>
		<link>http://www.hirebetterblog.com/recruiting/an-open-letter-to-the-staffing-advisor/comment-page-1/#comment-9883</link>
		<dc:creator>mkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top grading, Is a bad way to gain real visionary talent. People with vision and passion for growth, those who see beyond today. They never make it through a top grading interview. If a company wishes to hire drone&#039;s or replace the guy with a NASCAR tattoo on his neck they need top grading. Top grading gets to the truth ? Top grading finds the top 15% the cream of the crop. Please ! Steven Jobs droped out of college in his first semester. So did Bill Gates. Do you think they would have been top grade measured as the top 5% ? If you say yes ...you only lie to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top grading, Is a bad way to gain real visionary talent. People with vision and passion for growth, those who see beyond today. They never make it through a top grading interview. If a company wishes to hire drone&#8217;s or replace the guy with a NASCAR tattoo on his neck they need top grading. Top grading gets to the truth ? Top grading finds the top 15% the cream of the crop. Please ! Steven Jobs droped out of college in his first semester. So did Bill Gates. Do you think they would have been top grade measured as the top 5% ? If you say yes &#8230;you only lie to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: mkw</title>
		<link>http://www.hirebetterblog.com/recruiting/an-open-letter-to-the-staffing-advisor/comment-page-1/#comment-9882</link>
		<dc:creator>mkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top grading, This inteview process is ugly. It assumes all who apply are liars. It assumes the person being interviewed is without ethic or character. It places the person being interviewed on the defensive from the beginning. Top Grading touts the vertues of Jack Welch ? A man who cheated on his wife and children. And left them for his publisist ? How vain and superficial. jack Welch, the guy who bought Ditec and thru Ditec created GE finance. A corporation that has been selling it&#039;s hard assets for 5-yrs just to stay afloat. Top Grading extolls those who are very good liars and not those who possess vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top grading, This inteview process is ugly. It assumes all who apply are liars. It assumes the person being interviewed is without ethic or character. It places the person being interviewed on the defensive from the beginning. Top Grading touts the vertues of Jack Welch ? A man who cheated on his wife and children. And left them for his publisist ? How vain and superficial. jack Welch, the guy who bought Ditec and thru Ditec created GE finance. A corporation that has been selling it&#8217;s hard assets for 5-yrs just to stay afloat. Top Grading extolls those who are very good liars and not those who possess vision.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bob_corlett</title>
		<link>http://www.hirebetterblog.com/recruiting/an-open-letter-to-the-staffing-advisor/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,
I have posted my reply to your post on my blog for anyone interested:
http://thestaffingadvisor.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/what-exactly-is-a-top-performer/#comment-110</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,<br />
I have posted my reply to your post on my blog for anyone interested:<br />
<a href="http://thestaffingadvisor.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/what-exactly-is-a-top-performer/#comment-110" rel="nofollow">http://thestaffingadvisor.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/what-exactly-is-a-top-performer/#comment-110</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug Davidoff</title>
		<link>http://www.hirebetterblog.com/recruiting/an-open-letter-to-the-staffing-advisor/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Davidoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full Disclosure:  I am a client of Staffing Advisors, who you reference in this post.  For what it&#039;s worth, Bob did not ask me to comment.  I&#039;ve also read Topgrading, bought the materials and attempted to master it.

Chris,  I think you&#039;re missing the point of Bob&#039;s post.  I don&#039;t think any reasonable person argues with the importance and diligence required  in hiring.  Having gone through Bob&#039;s The Results Based Hiring Process, I can attest to the stringency, depth and focus we&#039;ve made in hiring.  I&#039;ve hired five people through Staffing Advisors and am in the process of hiring a sixth.  I&#039;ve never made better hires in my business life.

I&#039;ve tried Topgrading and it didn&#039;t work for me.  I have nothing against the ideas represented, actually I think they&#039;re quite good.  In my work with small and mid-sized businesses (a market I&#039;ve worked exclusively in for the last 25 years), I&#039;ve also learned it&#039;s very easy to use Topgrading terms without understanding them.  I&#039;ve worked with a raving fan of Topgrading, who talks all day long about the importance of &quot;attracting A players and getting rid of your C players.&quot;  He does CIDs interviews, in-depth reference checks, etc.  When I talk to him about the results that he needs from people to be successful, he&#039;s vague at best - and often times articulates a result that does not cause success.

I&#039;m sure you&#039;d say that he&#039;s not doing Topgrading correctly - and I&#039;d agree with you.  But here&#039;s the fact, in any business - but small &amp; mid-sized businesses especially - resources (especially time and energy) are scarce.  We have to get more done with less (less time, people and money) and we need to constantly raise the bar.  The question we should all be asking (and I&#039;m sure you&#039;re asking at HQ) is how can we get the same result in half the time.  Even fans of effective Topgrading talk of the difficulty of mastering Topgrading.

I don&#039;t view Topgrading or The Results-Based Hiring Process as an either/or proposition.  Topgrading is better for some and Results-Base Hiring is better for others. 

The argument isn&#039;t &quot;don&#039;t do Topgrading because it&#039;s too difficult&quot; it&#039;s don&#039;t do something that you can do properly.  You have to make trade offs and Staffing Advisors has designed a process that works extraordinarily well for small and mid-sized businesses.  

Innovation is the lifeblood of growth - and our only chance of getting out of the economic mess we find ourselves - and I for one would like to encourage more people to find better alternatives to Topgrading and for Topgrading to find better alternatives to their models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full Disclosure:  I am a client of Staffing Advisors, who you reference in this post.  For what it&#8217;s worth, Bob did not ask me to comment.  I&#8217;ve also read Topgrading, bought the materials and attempted to master it.</p>
<p>Chris,  I think you&#8217;re missing the point of Bob&#8217;s post.  I don&#8217;t think any reasonable person argues with the importance and diligence required  in hiring.  Having gone through Bob&#8217;s The Results Based Hiring Process, I can attest to the stringency, depth and focus we&#8217;ve made in hiring.  I&#8217;ve hired five people through Staffing Advisors and am in the process of hiring a sixth.  I&#8217;ve never made better hires in my business life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried Topgrading and it didn&#8217;t work for me.  I have nothing against the ideas represented, actually I think they&#8217;re quite good.  In my work with small and mid-sized businesses (a market I&#8217;ve worked exclusively in for the last 25 years), I&#8217;ve also learned it&#8217;s very easy to use Topgrading terms without understanding them.  I&#8217;ve worked with a raving fan of Topgrading, who talks all day long about the importance of &#8220;attracting A players and getting rid of your C players.&#8221;  He does CIDs interviews, in-depth reference checks, etc.  When I talk to him about the results that he needs from people to be successful, he&#8217;s vague at best &#8211; and often times articulates a result that does not cause success.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d say that he&#8217;s not doing Topgrading correctly &#8211; and I&#8217;d agree with you.  But here&#8217;s the fact, in any business &#8211; but small &amp; mid-sized businesses especially &#8211; resources (especially time and energy) are scarce.  We have to get more done with less (less time, people and money) and we need to constantly raise the bar.  The question we should all be asking (and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re asking at HQ) is how can we get the same result in half the time.  Even fans of effective Topgrading talk of the difficulty of mastering Topgrading.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t view Topgrading or The Results-Based Hiring Process as an either/or proposition.  Topgrading is better for some and Results-Base Hiring is better for others. </p>
<p>The argument isn&#8217;t &#8220;don&#8217;t do Topgrading because it&#8217;s too difficult&#8221; it&#8217;s don&#8217;t do something that you can do properly.  You have to make trade offs and Staffing Advisors has designed a process that works extraordinarily well for small and mid-sized businesses.  </p>
<p>Innovation is the lifeblood of growth &#8211; and our only chance of getting out of the economic mess we find ourselves &#8211; and I for one would like to encourage more people to find better alternatives to Topgrading and for Topgrading to find better alternatives to their models.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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